tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post4918015515053247143..comments2024-03-27T12:53:39.298+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: Inadequate infrastructure causes injuries. Better infrastructure prevents them. Learning from two minor crashes. Mini Roundabouts are unsafe for cyclistsDavid Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-51414486912158894842014-01-22T10:21:50.763+01:002014-01-22T10:21:50.763+01:00Michal, please don't use Vienna as a target to...Michal, please don't use Vienna as a target to aim for. It's not actually even good for Austria. Vienna is a city with a mere 5% modal share for cycling which in a country which also has a 5% modal share.<br /><br />Conditions in Vienna are unpleasant enough that cyclists from that city often complain about them in comments under this blog and others. There is also at least one blog from David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-85612192388154060242014-01-21T16:16:09.737+01:002014-01-21T16:16:09.737+01:00Yes, you're right, it feels a lot like Canadia...Yes, you're right, it feels a lot like Canadian municipalities are positive/green/etc, but usually have not much idea of what to do, which results into something like you describe :-/.<br /><br />On the choose-your-way I'd like to use Vienna, Austria, a very cycle-friendly city, as an example. They have a regulation that allows cyclists to use one-way streets freely in any direction, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884386065740995547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-6936031831348153612014-01-21T12:23:37.738+01:002014-01-21T12:23:37.738+01:00Michal / Martin,
Canada unfortunately doesn't...Michal / Martin,<br /><br />Canada unfortunately doesn't seem to have yet come to grips with what is required to make cycling safe and pleasant. Last year, I wrote <a href="http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2013/06/ontario-traffic-manual-bicycle.html" rel="nofollow">a critique of the many problems apparent from even just a short read through the new Ontario Bicycle Facilities manual</a>. David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-6865600785288834602014-01-21T12:12:59.968+01:002014-01-21T12:12:59.968+01:00It's sad cyclists have to mess around places l...It's sad cyclists have to mess around places like where your mom had the accident - a roundabout connected to the gas station and no bike lanes, that's utterly terrible. I can't imagine more stressful environment for myself as a cyclist.<br /><br />I agree totally that separating the bikes from the general roads is the best way suitable. First of all, as a cyclist, I must say that Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884386065740995547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-3488947265134110322014-01-18T10:35:49.703+01:002014-01-18T10:35:49.703+01:00Andrew: thanks for your comment. One of the greate...Andrew: thanks for your comment. One of the greatest problems we face is a lack of "quality control" by people who write such documents.<br /><br />It's simply not possible to find any sensible result from combining bad results which result from bad design with good results which result from good design. It flies in the face of logic to attempt to do this, yet we see it again and David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-15652091212879944482014-01-18T00:10:33.419+01:002014-01-18T00:10:33.419+01:00Andrew: Many Dutch councils do recognise that in s...Andrew: Many Dutch councils do recognise that in some circumstances (in particular, at roundabouts with separate cycle infrastructure) the risks of separate facilities are <a href="http://www.fietsberaad.nl/index.cfm?lang=nl&repository=SWOV+rotonde+zonder+fietservoorrang+veiliger+voor+fietser" rel="nofollow">possibly</a> higher than without, but they build them anyway as they feel the bz2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12501944795613124511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-80454579339494335342014-01-17T22:47:00.722+01:002014-01-17T22:47:00.722+01:00Dare I admit I work for one of the other Dutch civ...Dare I admit I work for one of the other Dutch civil engineering companies - I believe its name means something like 'muck shifting'.<br /><br />Anyway, the problem we have in the UK as designers is we need some sort of evidence or standards to base our designs on. You could say it's self evident that the Dutch have cycle infrastructure correct - use the CROW manual - unfortunately Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06558597827729171101noreply@blogger.com