tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post1287965955038494434..comments2024-03-27T12:53:39.298+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: Go Vilnius ! (or what future should a growing nation choose ?)David Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-52164645693230013062017-02-22T14:10:23.084+01:002017-02-22T14:10:23.084+01:00Well it is really good to stimulate bicycle using ...Well it is really good to stimulate bicycle using in Lithuania, especially Vilnius. But there is some problems with our mountainous terrain here. If you have a nice downhill in the morning, remember you'll have to uphill it at the evening :) Also these recent news about buying diesel buses for public transportation instead of using trolleybuses or something electrical, a innovative transport.terazikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476087311367170197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-57142384172252990782011-11-21T14:53:54.257+01:002011-11-21T14:53:54.257+01:00Ufff... Finally I managed to put some English subt...Ufff... Finally I managed to put some English subtitles on this small report on Cycling in Vilnius. Do you still want to go?<br />http://youtu.be/D9KGmAXHMY4Frankashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18370503893250145325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-59370655359869060142011-11-04T16:05:32.442+01:002011-11-04T16:05:32.442+01:00Chris, I wondered what would be at your link. Afte...Chris, I wondered what would be at your link. After all, what's wrong with existing quick-releases ? However, it's interesting to see what they've made - a variation on the existing design for bikes with "lawyer lips" on the forks. On bikes without those lips, the original quick-release is just as convenient, of course.<br /><br />And here's a revelation: Even lawyer David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-10153384653660602062011-11-03T19:55:09.586+01:002011-11-03T19:55:09.586+01:00Frankas: Population density is a strange thing and...Frankas: Population density is a strange thing and often used as an excuse with regard to cycling provision. People in less densely populated areas say they're too spread out, while those in densely populated places say they don't have the space. <a href="http://hembrow.blogspot.com/search/label/population%20density" rel="nofollow">Neither is really true</a>.<br /><br />The density of David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-85920077994048439452011-11-03T15:43:20.147+01:002011-11-03T15:43:20.147+01:00David: I just hope, that would DO SOMETHING. Only ...David: I just hope, that would DO SOMETHING. Only if you make mistakes, than you could learn from them.<br />As I am German, I know a lot of mistakes made in my home country. <br />Plus: there were different fashions in traffic planning as well. <br />As Lithuanian differently to the Netherlands isn't a densely populated country, many solutions are not applicable.Frankashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18370503893250145325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-67350344112765062432011-11-02T16:56:55.835+01:002011-11-02T16:56:55.835+01:00"Every journey by bike is a journey which is ..."Every journey by bike is a journey which is not taken by motor-vehicle."<br /><br />Even that is not quite true: it should be "walked or by bike". Look for instance, at the UK vs. NL:<br /><br />MT/PT/cy/wa<br />59/18/ 3/17 UK<br />41/11/40/ 6 NL<br /><br />So you see that, of the 37% more cycling trips, 18 (~50%) come from MT, 7 (~20%) come from PT, and 11 (~30%) from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-52204625820281058592011-11-02T10:20:36.880+01:002011-11-02T10:20:36.880+01:00David: I said promote PT, bike and walking, not PT...David: I said promote PT, bike and walking, not PT "first".Richard Mannhttp://www.transportparadise.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-632020224073614302011-11-01T20:22:49.032+01:002011-11-01T20:22:49.032+01:00Neil: I find that public transport here does work ...Neil: I find that public transport here does work well. Trains are very cheap compared with the UK, especially for disorganized people who turn up at the station a minute before the train leaves and find that the highest fare possible from one end of the country to the other is only about €14 (with the €50 a year 40% off card). When this is taken into account, quibbling about paying an extra €6 David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-82153880263903365152011-11-01T10:55:01.806+01:002011-11-01T10:55:01.806+01:00Public transport does not inevitably shrink as wea...Public transport does not inevitably shrink as wealth increases, with Zurich and several other Swiss cities being the obvious examples. Oxford also has deliberately promoted bus use with significant success. The eastern europeans might well be better advised to copy the Swiss, since they are starting with comprehensive public transport networks. Which is not to say that bicycles can't be an Richard Mannhttp://www.transportparadise.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-90764692757194234372011-11-01T10:54:31.984+01:002011-11-01T10:54:31.984+01:00I am suprised that NL is so low for public transpo...I am suprised that NL is so low for public transport. It seemed much better and just as well used as the parts of the UK I know. London is very high for public transport use, but is that enough to push the figures so far above NL?Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11443493823465136241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-74988151099141932082011-11-01T06:38:52.033+01:002011-11-01T06:38:52.033+01:00Frankas: Groningen also made the same mistake, bui...Frankas: Groningen also made the same mistake, building <a href="http://hembrow.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-groningen-grew-to-be-worlds-number.html" rel="nofollow">urban motorways right into the city</a> in the 1960s. This didn't stop them reversing the policy ten years later.<br /><br />Jacob: Americans often argue that they believe they have longer commuting distances. This is <a href="http://David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-56752143573371973582011-11-01T01:49:37.452+01:002011-11-01T01:49:37.452+01:00While I think there is an interesting argument her...While I think there is an interesting argument here, I think that there are several factors left out: First, long commuting distances, a function of city density and city size, can make biking not feasible as a primary mode, regardless of the quality of bicycle facilities. I lived in Manhattan, which no one would argue is low-density, but my hour-long bike commute (on a high-quality bikeway most Jacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-14742495310499967102011-10-31T15:32:15.583+01:002011-10-31T15:32:15.583+01:00Yep, I would hope that you would come to Vilnius (...Yep, I would hope that you would come to Vilnius (or go to Riga) to see what your mentioned figures mean in reality.<br />In Vilnius the choice was made over 10 years ago (strangely there was the same mayor) and as one result the Western bypass motorway is under construction (cost: 200 mln. Lt if I remember well). The budget for cycling this year is 0 (in words: Zero) Lithuanian Litas. <br />In Frankashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07117240163228546192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-59444595853194997142011-10-31T06:02:08.979+01:002011-10-31T06:02:08.979+01:00This is a great post. Thank you for tying together...This is a great post. Thank you for tying together all of those issues that we know are connected.<br /><br />This reads a bit like a farewell magnum opus. You're not thinking of doing a Freewheeler on us, are you?Edwardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-18516209285423299662011-10-31T01:28:25.074+01:002011-10-31T01:28:25.074+01:00Kevin, I just changed that sentence to read "...Kevin, I just changed that sentence to read "motor vehicle" in place of "automobile". This was my original intention.<br /><br />You're assuming with your induced demand argument that nothing can be done to reduce demand for driving.<br /><br />When someone has been tempted out of a car, their place does not have to be taken by someone else <a href="http://David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-58170365304001369902011-10-31T00:52:30.287+01:002011-10-31T00:52:30.287+01:00David wrote:
"Every journey by bike is a jou...David wrote:<br /><br />"Every journey by bike is a journey which is not taken by automobile."<br /><br />Kevin's comment:<br /><br />There's a lot of evidence in Toronto that the people lured onto bicycles by the new cycle infrastructure and the new Bixi bike-share system have mostly been lured off public transit.<br /><br />To put things another way, after 1945 the people of Kevin Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13186428862833389619noreply@blogger.com