tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post542752361669792387..comments2024-03-27T12:53:39.298+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: Country road - no centre linesDavid Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-81915543502980809292016-07-11T07:59:41.695+02:002016-07-11T07:59:41.695+02:00Torbjörn: It is quite normal for speed limits to d...Torbjörn: It is quite normal for speed limits to drop to 30 km/h through Dutch villages. This is true even of very small collections of houses, including where there is no kindergarten. However, actual vehicle speeds are not much affected if all that is present is a sign post with a speed limit.<br /><br />What civilizes roads like the one in the photo of the top of the page is that the amount ofDavid Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-45245015884904189352016-07-10T12:10:58.256+02:002016-07-10T12:10:58.256+02:00How would this work when the road passes a very ve...How would this work when the road passes a very very small village, say 5-15 houses on a stretch? Possible 30 km>/h zone if one of the houses is kindergarten. Would it be an effective way to keep speed down? Would it lure children and parents that they are safe on the sides?<br />Torbjörn Albértnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-76787813569781787582013-02-21T18:51:48.783+01:002013-02-21T18:51:48.783+01:00@ Maarten: you are right, it is not a cycle lane a...@ Maarten: you are right, it is not a cycle lane as such, but a 'fiets-suggestiestrook': a strip suggesting it's reserved for cyclists. Cyclists however are not confined to this, and can ride side by side, so that one of them rides on the black tarmac in the middle.Koenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17409336272282919407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-55026236010333834502009-08-06T14:23:53.924+02:002009-08-06T14:23:53.924+02:00David, thanks for the coverage, I was truly positi...David, thanks for the coverage, I was truly positively surprised seeing these arrangements all around the rural NL.<br /><br />This is simply a brilliant idea, if we think about the _default_ space for cars & bikes on the road:<br />1) traditional road accommodates two lanes of cars, the presence of a bike needs an overtaking manoeuvre.<br />2) this setting accommodates two lanes of bikes andDaniel Sparinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770694012992195852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-79841348569165893772009-08-02T16:59:49.224+02:002009-08-02T16:59:49.224+02:00One comment though: The red tarmac is not a cycle ...One comment though: The red tarmac is <i>not</i> a cycle lane, it is used to optically narrow the area for cars, reducing the speed at which drivers will use these roads. The red tarmac can be much narrower in places (down to 30 cm). In my view this is unfortunate, as drivers expect more space in passing manoeuvres (and will end up in the soft side of the road in the dark), or will react Maarten Sneepnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-15663459967424189982009-07-29T09:27:25.517+02:002009-07-29T09:27:25.517+02:00Thanks for this david, it's good to see how in...Thanks for this david, it's good to see how infrastructure works (or, could work) in rural areas like ours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-45624346697363290442009-07-27T12:17:42.590+02:002009-07-27T12:17:42.590+02:00It may help to stress that this isn't a new ro...It may help to stress that this isn't a new road. It has been there for possibly centuries, and has now been reworked for local traffic and cyclists only. Other traffic is being redirected to wider roads avoiding built-up areas.Frits Bnoreply@blogger.com