tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post3913707039762976821..comments2024-02-24T06:21:30.987+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: "Go By Bike - Holland shows the way" - News just in from 1981David Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-43437897490129189522014-01-29T23:16:01.275+01:002014-01-29T23:16:01.275+01:00I saw this quote from The Cycling Lawyer at http:/...I saw this quote from The Cycling Lawyer at http://thecyclingsilk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/why-am-i-angry.html#comment-form:<br /><br />"I am angry that, whereas Olympic lanes can be built overnight, there has been no spade into the ground to implement the London Mayor's cycling vision, whilst in the meantime more people on bicycles are being killed and injured."<br /><br />Well said Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438785977219628856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-47447887728884750172013-06-26T11:02:47.225+02:002013-06-26T11:02:47.225+02:00Robert, sorry but I have no document for this. I w...Robert, sorry but I have no document for this. I was told it by a local official just after we moved here six years ago and since then I've watched as roads and cycle-paths were renewed. This is little still left from before we came here. Some parts have been done twice.David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-1655654212579506212013-06-26T10:21:52.648+02:002013-06-26T10:21:52.648+02:00I'm trying to introduce my council to the conc...I'm trying to introduce my council to the concept of planned maintenance. When you say that many Dutch cities aim to renew their roads and cycle paths every seven years, where does that information come from? Do you have a reference document for that, such as a policy document published by national or local government?Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07251409182403605985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-52252001096903665092011-10-13T06:17:37.805+02:002011-10-13T06:17:37.805+02:00Dennis Hindman,
What you're doing in L.A. giv...<b><a rel="nofollow">Dennis Hindman,</a></b><br /><br />What you're doing in L.A. gives me hope for the future for New Jersey and NYC metro.<br /><br />For my fellow travelers on two wheels --the wheels that click rather than roar-- in those parts of the world where cycling is so marginalized, let's also focus on a simple and painfully overlooked obvious proposal: let's provide more highwaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619122855480674269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-88895859214602828852011-10-11T10:27:25.493+02:002011-10-11T10:27:25.493+02:00Jack
So, we're'a small group of very nice...Jack<br /><br />So, we're'a small group of very nice and very intelligent bloggers with a website'. How lovely and beautifully patronising :-)<br /><br />I'm an ex-CTC officer who also campaigns locally having re-established a local cycle campaign group in Worthing, West Susex and also set up a Cycle Town Forum for local cyclists to engage with the police, local councillors etc.WeCycling Embassy of Great Britainhttp://www.cycling-embassy.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-3275511973769001882011-10-10T22:23:34.819+02:002011-10-10T22:23:34.819+02:00David,
I agree entirely with your recipe for mov...David, <br /><br />I agree entirely with your recipe for moving forward in the UK and think that is exactly what the more active borough groups of the London Cycling Campaign are doing. For instance, my local group, Southwark Cyclists, has strong working relationships with Living Streets, with the local NHS through it's accessible 'healthy rides' programme of easy rides aimed at olderJackhttp://thebikeshow.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-42720193468556402522011-10-10T21:09:36.181+02:002011-10-10T21:09:36.181+02:00It's sort of the chicken or egg question. How ...It's sort of the chicken or egg question. How do you get a network of good quality bike infrastructure installed when the great majority of the populous doesn't ride a bike regularly. The resistance to taking away parking spaces or street lanes can be fierce, as L.A. is just beginning to experience with the beginning implementation of it's new bicycle plan. <br /><br />Closing some Dennis Hindmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217027108525416160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-64443209636948121602011-10-10T20:15:54.561+02:002011-10-10T20:15:54.561+02:00David
Another inspirational post which should be ...David<br /><br />Another inspirational post which should be required reading, well, for everybody! Thanks. Also grateful for the reminder of the idea that the campaign in the UK should perhaps not be about cycle paths per se, but about "stopping the child murder", solving the problem of the "lorry killers in out towns" or turning back the tide of the "obesity time bomb&Estudio27 Architectshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08227904649622651689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-88587534045237362412011-10-10T17:26:35.118+02:002011-10-10T17:26:35.118+02:00Jack, no popular movement ever has everyone writin...Jack, no popular movement ever has everyone writing policies and gathering support.<br /><br />You're looking at a very small part of the picture.<br /><br />It's always a small number of people who write, say, a political manifesto. They then set out to get enough people in the country, perhaps even a majority, to support their ideas that they will achieve power.<br /><br />It's justDavid Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-62241119222522900312011-10-10T17:01:30.601+02:002011-10-10T17:01:30.601+02:00David
By 'constituency' I mean the people...David<br /><br />By 'constituency' I mean the people who will support and vote for politicians who force through the pro-cycling measures you describe - often against the powerful opposition of the motoring lobby. In 2011 what are the political rewards for politicians who promote cycling in the UK? <br /><br />The absence of obvious political payoffs explains why all but the most 'Jackhttp://thebikeshow.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-29669273915218470912011-10-10T16:18:27.243+02:002011-10-10T16:18:27.243+02:00Jack, cycling in the Netherlands never reached the...Jack, cycling in the Netherlands never reached the low point that it has in the UK. Action was taken before this could occur.<br /><br />However, for cycling to grow, existing cyclists are not the target. Cycling has to become attractive and relevant to those who don't cycle.<br /><br />The entire population is the constituency, not just the minority who already cycle.<br /><br />This is why David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-20525659184125441402011-10-10T15:59:54.001+02:002011-10-10T15:59:54.001+02:00Hi David
Very good post - as ever. Are there any f...Hi David<br />Very good post - as ever. Are there any figures on cycling modal share in the Netherlands when cycling there was at its 'darkest hour', I'm guessing sometime in the late 60s or early 70s. Was it down to the 1-2% level, or a little higher?<br />It's an interesting question since we here in the UK have seen cycling effectively extinct for a generation or more (for all Jackhttp://thebikeshow.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-4351253732533093612011-10-10T14:12:57.139+02:002011-10-10T14:12:57.139+02:00I second ibikeLondon's sentiments. In the UK w...I second ibikeLondon's sentiments. In the UK we've spent decades doing the same thing and expecting different results, or trumpeting a continued steady decline as a victory. Bah.Karl McCracken (twitter: @KarlOnSea)http://www.mccracken.me.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-35536290268011144972011-10-10T12:34:05.843+02:002011-10-10T12:34:05.843+02:00I am depressed and inspired in equal parts! Thanks...I am depressed and inspired in equal parts! Thanks for sharing this fascinating insight in to our campaigning history David & Marc.<br /><br />Greetings from London!ibikelondonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06978714126105951294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-87648162958672105012011-10-10T03:02:38.373+02:002011-10-10T03:02:38.373+02:00According to the Westminster Cycling Campaign, the...<a href="http://www.westminstercyclists.org.uk/index.htm?routes.htm" rel="nofollow">According to the Westminster Cycling Campaign,</a> the "Ambassador Route" still exists as route 5 of the London Cycle Network. While I was aware of the existence of the LCN, I have never heard of the Ambassador Route before, nor seen it signposted as such, although it goes through Belgravia which has a christhebullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18058394246399615754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-48982088348295275162011-10-10T02:05:37.844+02:002011-10-10T02:05:37.844+02:00Great post David.
I recall the Ambassador's C...Great post David.<br /><br />I recall the Ambassador's Cycle Route. It no longer has that name but still exists, marked on the TfL London Cycle Guides. It was incorporated into the London cycle Network (another, bigger, never-finished "broken promise").<br /><br />I think it ran from Belgravia or Chelsea Bridge to Paddington, and the main facilities it introduced, which are still David Ardittihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255565837583244148noreply@blogger.com