tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post3556585453898456085..comments2024-03-27T12:53:39.298+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: Higher income brackets cycle as well in AmsterdamDavid Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-73735758117726383642011-02-07T12:45:36.978+01:002011-02-07T12:45:36.978+01:00DrMekon: I wouldn't take the comments on fok.n...DrMekon: I wouldn't take the comments on fok.nl terribly seriously. It's mostly rather juvenile.<br /><br />The first "anti-bakfiets comment" is by someone who says they're ugly. If you click on his name, and look at past comments you'll see that previously he wishes death upon all who work for T-Mobile.<br /><br />That's about the level of discourse you can expect.David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-81644928646731675832011-02-07T11:50:56.072+01:002011-02-07T11:50:56.072+01:00Whilst the anti-bakfiets thing does appear to be h...Whilst the anti-bakfiets thing does appear to be hype, it does appear to exist. See this story about Delft subsidising bakfietsen for schools for example<br /><br />http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/222806/1/1/50/delft-subsidieert-bakfiets.html<br /><br />Non-dutch speakers will have to use google translate, but there are a number of anti-bakfiets comments in there.DrMekonhttp://bakfiets.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-47004549941191924492011-02-05T09:54:23.818+01:002011-02-05T09:54:23.818+01:00Sorry, that should have read: "And for most m...Sorry, that should have read: "And for most motorways, which do not allow <b>bikes</b>, there are bike routes that do not allow cars."Willekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10707119475625075080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-44184252006337694582011-02-04T22:20:38.346+01:002011-02-04T22:20:38.346+01:00Green,
All streets that have a slower than 50 km/h...Green,<br />All streets that have a slower than 50 km/h speed limit are basically bikes first, cars take second place.<br />And for most motorways, which do not allow cars, there are bike routes that do not allow cars. I am not sure of the numbers but I think they equal out.Willekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10707119475625075080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-26788498219910178792011-02-04T00:19:42.580+01:002011-02-04T00:19:42.580+01:00@Allison: Are you saying that all streets in Amste...@Allison: Are you saying that all streets in Amsterdam are fit for cycling? As I understand it mostly only faster 50km/h streets have cycle paths.Slow Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056080802746709323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-39158374690094064222011-02-03T08:43:47.482+01:002011-02-03T08:43:47.482+01:00@Kevin - A major difference (aside from the total ...@Kevin - A major difference (aside from the total population point already raised) between Toronto and Amsterdam is that Amsterdam has cycle paths on *every* street. So all bicycle traffic does not congregate on the "busiest" routes in the same way it will have a tendency to in a city with only a few bicycle routes.Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709674707044199845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-73053736053178178882011-02-03T00:57:51.859+01:002011-02-03T00:57:51.859+01:00David,
Yes, I am quite aware that I am not compar...David,<br /><br />Yes, I am quite aware that I am not comparing like with like. That is why I use phrases like "wild and crazy guess" for the peak hours part of the 12 hours count.<br /><br />However, since I observe this first-hand, the guess isn't perhaps so wild after all.<br /><br />Toronto's busiest streets having even 25% of Amsterdam's cycle traffic is like the joke Kevin Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13186428862833389619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-72296043468991790852011-02-03T00:31:57.882+01:002011-02-03T00:31:57.882+01:00J: the parking problem is being solved by creating...J: the parking problem is being solved by creating more "<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/bourdrez/Fietsen#5532026552736194706" rel="nofollow">bike boxes</a>" on the pavement, large painted rectangles for people to park their bikes in. Cheaper than building bike stands, and many Dutch people <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/bourdrez/Fietsen#5537245251963900034" rel="nofollow">Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-57611520865250159112011-02-02T22:32:17.872+01:002011-02-02T22:32:17.872+01:00Kevin: I'm happy to hear that there are a dece...Kevin: I'm happy to hear that there are a decent number of cyclists in Toronto. However, you're not comparing like with like. 2000 cyclists per hour in a city of 770000 people vs. 4000 over a 12 hour period in a city of 2.5 M people.<br /><br />You've got to be careful with these raw measurements. These days, London claims 500000 cycle journeys per day, while Groningen can only claim David Hembrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-83928747491768644872011-02-02T22:06:51.564+01:002011-02-02T22:06:51.564+01:00Too many bicycles is an issue we can only dream ab...Too many bicycles is an issue we can only dream about here in Australia. As I parked my bike at the train station this morning I was one of only 3. This is with secure lockup facilities and on a perfect blue sky day in the high 20's. <br /><br />P.S Don't tell our politicians that bike parking can become an issue, they may try everything in their power to put people off mass cycling and Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-1324715565173106072011-02-02T19:38:20.662+01:002011-02-02T19:38:20.662+01:00OK, nice statistics...
But what are they going to ...OK, nice statistics...<br />But what are they going to do about path width and parking spaces? I've already heard complaints that the bakfiets is the SUV of bicycles. This issue is going to come to a head at some point.J..noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-65359367510359458012011-02-02T18:37:49.262+01:002011-02-02T18:37:49.262+01:00Very interesting. But it was surprising to see th...Very interesting. But it was surprising to see the low cycle counts. Even the busies of main cycle roads have less than 2,000 cyclists per hour during peak hours.<br /><br />It makes Toronto's cycle counts look quite respectible. Toronto's busiest cycle roads will have over 4,000 cyclists in the 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM period. This is quite astonishing, since I am not used to be able to Kevin Lovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13186428862833389619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-80813309481801867822011-02-02T11:37:11.708+01:002011-02-02T11:37:11.708+01:00OK, David, in the Alternative Universe the cycling...OK, David, in the Alternative Universe the cycling mode share in the UK is the highest in Europe (after Andorra "Turons són excuses per no!") and they just invaded the Netherlands, victoriously.<br /><br />Your job as Minister for Cycling is to implement solutions for the problems or near-problems mentioned in this blog entry.Slow Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056080802746709323noreply@blogger.com