tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post2682617733354934903..comments2024-02-24T06:21:30.987+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: False "green" excuses not to build cycle pathsDavid Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-11922369480342158342016-03-28T07:51:04.463+02:002016-03-28T07:51:04.463+02:00Note that the Dutch government has made a goal to ...Note that the Dutch government has made a goal to cover 100% of the motorway network (also may include the autowegs) with porous asphalt concrete, which rapidly drains water. You can see videos of thousands of litres of water (I hope they just got some lake water rather than the filtered stuff, nobody needs to drink it after all) to dump on the asphalt as a demo. I think that rainwater will drainMultiparty Democracy Todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359081992141220593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-80417107254721723862015-07-06T12:03:05.241+02:002015-07-06T12:03:05.241+02:00And besides, car infrastructure has caused many mo...And besides, car infrastructure has caused many more trees to be removed and I can't think of a single thing that built bicycle infrastructure to cause a home or building to be removed. Many road projects have, like the razing of 40 city blocks in Minneapolis to build a freeway. People weren't too concerned then about much more damaging infrastructure. Why can't we rectify our Multiparty Democracy Todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359081992141220593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-63678782262260633782011-06-24T00:21:26.891+02:002011-06-24T00:21:26.891+02:00http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jun/03...http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jun/03/britons-unmoved-cycling-campaignsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-68318346893150077192011-06-16T02:27:29.556+02:002011-06-16T02:27:29.556+02:00What is the mechanism for enforcement of environme...What is the mechanism for enforcement of environmental rules and regulations? In the US both the government and private parties can sue to enforce environmental rules. The assumption was that with both public and private parties able to enforce environmental rules through the courts, environmental rules were more likely to be strictly enforced because private parties could step in if the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-24830475279591493972011-06-15T22:24:37.384+02:002011-06-15T22:24:37.384+02:00Sonia,
Peak oil means energy is going to be reall...Sonia,<br /><br />Peak oil means energy is going to be really expensive, so the streets will be entirely empty except for rich guys in sportscars driving really fast (cos there's no other traffic, or so they presume).<br /><br />Fight BS with BS!J..noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-82368736075496740082011-06-15T19:50:55.414+02:002011-06-15T19:50:55.414+02:00Hey, I know I am late but how about this one (tota...Hey, I know I am late but how about this one (totally floored me when I heard it):<br /><br />We should not invest even a dime in bike infrastructure. Peak oil is around the corner and gas prices will wipe the cars out the streets which will be ours to enjoy once again. <br /><br />We only sit and wait and use all that money for other green issues.<br /><br />How is that?<br /><br />SoniaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-46132976209277440712011-06-15T10:27:22.579+02:002011-06-15T10:27:22.579+02:00And we have a famous lumberjack song.
Mark Garret...And we have a famous lumberjack song.<br /><br />Mark Garrett, Bristol UKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-84638480346104152812011-06-15T04:36:08.752+02:002011-06-15T04:36:08.752+02:00Yeah, here in Vancouver the rhetoric seems to be t...Yeah, here in Vancouver the rhetoric seems to be that having a bike lane would create gridlock so more cars would be idling causing more air pollution.<br />It's really a failed approach because it comes off as desperate. Also it assumes that people who cycle have saving the planet as their motive for cycling. I wonder if then that them driving a car is specifically to destroy the planet and clark Nikolainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-82742979771035730042011-06-14T22:41:52.641+02:002011-06-14T22:41:52.641+02:00I think the "save the trees" argument is...I think the "save the trees" argument is typical. This is why people dislike invironmentalists. What many fail to understand is that it's not a choice between cutting down trees or not cutting down trees. It's a choice between the benefits of a tree, or the benefits of a bikepath. Both have environmental implications, and in some instances cutting down the tree (even the very J..noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-40767692488301739512011-06-13T18:47:15.250+02:002011-06-13T18:47:15.250+02:00I've never heard of the flooding or lighting a...I've never heard of the flooding or lighting arguments here.<br /><br />The tree one I have on a rare occasion, however one road that is currently under construction where I live, residents complained about the removal of trees. No bike lane in the area and no plans on one.<br /><br />I'd rather see cities be able to work around trees if possible rather then take them down.<br />My Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589492356827998591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-61010783405722719392011-06-13T13:39:17.238+02:002011-06-13T13:39:17.238+02:00I have never encountered a green reason for not ha...I have never encountered a green reason for not having a cycle path - it is normally just "too much money to spend on too few people" - but that is not to say there will not be some genuine environmental cases. I did stop to think when I saw the route across the heathland last week and I would not be happy to see a tree cut down to accomodate a cycle path any more than a car park. UrbanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-27313604452718332732011-06-13T10:20:30.487+02:002011-06-13T10:20:30.487+02:00There's one bike/foot path in Bristol which ha...There's one bike/foot path in Bristol which has LED lights, which works because it is through some dark allotments and there is no major street lighting to distract. You still need bike lights, but the LEDs show you the path and help you see pedestrians ahead early (as they block the lights). I think it benefits people on foot or cyclists without lights more than anything else. <br /><br />SteveLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654931341335136008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-87412888320354757612011-06-13T09:59:40.078+02:002011-06-13T09:59:40.078+02:00Never heard 'Green' arguments like that fr...Never heard 'Green' arguments like that from bike advocates, I've heard the classic 'green' argument by motorists:<br /><br />"If we give space to bikes, won't that just cause more congestion for motorists, and result it more pollution by car idling, thus being bad for the environment?"Severinhttp://www.walkeaglerock.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-21352114237097520032011-06-13T03:17:52.051+02:002011-06-13T03:17:52.051+02:00Those arguments sound ridiculous - especially when...Those arguments sound ridiculous - especially when you compare to the alternative - really wide roads for motor vehicles (as you rightfully point out).<br /><br />I haven't heard anyone use those particular arguments here in Canada. One argument against infrastructure from cyclists here is that it will slow cyclists down (which is also a lame excuse, easy to debunk, and not very common).James D. Schwartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454437680686627778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-58216666630088709942011-06-13T02:09:15.240+02:002011-06-13T02:09:15.240+02:00Many times the "green" arguments against...Many times the "green" arguments against cycle infrastructure are used by those who are not green at all themselves. It is just a convenient point to prevent any improvement for non-motorist activity.<br /><br />If it causes some cyclist advocates to hesitate since they are environmentalists then all for the better in the mind of some.Duncan Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01363433039416687609noreply@blogger.com