tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post2339666268025056038..comments2024-02-24T06:21:30.987+01:00Comments on A view from the cycle path: How the Dutch got their cycling infrastructureDavid Hembrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14543024940730663645noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-40062811546988701052011-12-08T07:56:02.138+01:002011-12-08T07:56:02.138+01:00Hi Mark/David,
Extremely well done video! Thanks s...Hi Mark/David,<br />Extremely well done video! Thanks so much! I'm Dutch (now living in Maple Ridge, BC, Canada - David actually did a post a couple years ago on subjective safety and used a photo that I sent him that was taken in Maple Ridge). <br />When all these protests were happening in NL I was a teenager, living in Lelystad. I think I was kind of oblivious to all the protests. In Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08864335445369530723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-43102845066977772892011-12-07T22:17:33.735+01:002011-12-07T22:17:33.735+01:00You know what I would really love to see, is a his...You know what I would really love to see, is a history of Dutch bicycle infrastructure design. You mention in this video that old bicycle paths "were of an entirely different sort" and that new designs were experimented with in the 1970's but how did the Dutch arrive at the genius intersection design? When did the Dutch decide that sidewalks, bicycle paths, should NOT give way to Severinhttp://www.walkeaglerock.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-91591720762158412702011-12-06T21:06:41.260+01:002011-12-06T21:06:41.260+01:00This is Joni from Brazil and I would like to congr...This is Joni from Brazil and I would like to congratulate you guys the initiative of spreading the Dutch mindset for cycling around the world.<br /><br /><br />Recently I have voluntarily edited a short video quoting your work in Portuguese and the link is below. In this way, I would like to apologize you guys for not asking a proper authorization first since I was in hurry to get it done before Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-61651058237417709932011-11-23T12:25:03.908+01:002011-11-23T12:25:03.908+01:00Excellent little movie with amazing historical ima...Excellent little movie with amazing historical images!Jan van der Grifthttp://www.bureauplano.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-65989460122287126602011-11-22T22:02:22.109+01:002011-11-22T22:02:22.109+01:00@João if you have a text for me in Portuguese I ca...@João if you have a text for me in Portuguese I can add it as subtitles with the original video. <br />Just send me a message on YouTube and we'll take it from there.Mark W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07882028603632115187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-36217448418160450052011-11-22T16:53:36.743+01:002011-11-22T16:53:36.743+01:00Great Post!
How could I help and get the subtitle...Great Post!<br /><br />How could I help and get the subtitles translated into portuguese?João Lacerdahttp://blog.ta.org.brnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-61402329316949996672011-11-02T10:17:07.496+01:002011-11-02T10:17:07.496+01:00@Frits, thanks for noticing that. I have requested...@Frits, thanks for noticing that. I have requested the removal of the reposted video and they did remove it at once. <br /><br />Everybody is free to link to or embed the YouTube video, and a lot of people do, which is perfectly okay. But downloading it and uploading it elsewhere, and then with the wrong credits is annoying. But they are a respectable company and it took but one request to Mark W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07882028603632115187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-52246617570790054552011-11-01T15:18:11.394+01:002011-11-01T15:18:11.394+01:00Here's a upcoming bike infrastructure project ...Here's a upcoming bike infrastructure project on <a href="http://la.curbed.com/archives/2011/10/spring_street_getting_bike_lane_by_december.php" rel="nofollow">Spring St.</a> in downtown Los Angeles, that Dutch bike experts helped stimulate ideas for, during the Dutch embassy's ThinkBike workshop in September. This included Dutch traffic engineer <a href="http://www.streetfilms.org/" rel=Dennis Hindmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217027108525416160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-38557134351529297702011-11-01T02:51:48.246+01:002011-11-01T02:51:48.246+01:00@ibikeldn
Yes, you're right that many on the...@ibikeldn <br /><br />Yes, you're right that many on the Flashrides have been wearing cycling clothing, and there's been a sea of high viz<br /><br />However, many of us weren't...<br /><br />These protest rides have grown over the summer, from 200 to 2500 people... and I don't think it's too fanciful to suppose that in the spring, when the mayoral election looms large, many mikeCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-60949518684696767822011-10-30T16:40:19.875+01:002011-10-30T16:40:19.875+01:00This same video is now shown on Elsevier's web...This same video is now shown on Elsevier's website:<br />http://video.elsevier.nl/11855811<br />and attributed to Dutch Cycling Embassy. Mark might wish to put them right.Frits Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11399632570565541892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-79970430440008800962011-10-27T10:42:30.560+02:002011-10-27T10:42:30.560+02:00Thanks for this wonderful article. Being half Dutc...Thanks for this wonderful article. Being half Dutch but living in Finland I always miss the cycling paths here, and the laws here are also way to car-centric. I hope that someday the legislation here will also change more in favour of bikes and pedestrians. <br /><br />Groetjes uit Tampere!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17919113324490223605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-36299667441506787302011-10-26T14:34:17.051+02:002011-10-26T14:34:17.051+02:00The cultural turning point, mentioned briefly in t...The cultural turning point, mentioned briefly in the video, was the 1973/4 Arab oil embargo that led to petrol rationing and four motoring-free Sundays.<br />Amsterdam without tin parked along its canals remains a vivid recollection for me. But the experience of being able to wander freely along town and city streets, to stand chatting in a cross-roads, to enjoy the space, to cycle in safety to FreshEyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12992891194903530998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-13690610095716464132011-10-26T14:27:21.622+02:002011-10-26T14:27:21.622+02:00Interesting comments, I hope this will be usefull ...Interesting comments, I hope this will be usefull in some discussions.<br /><br />@Henk op den Berg. "better at ease cycling in Paris and Italy"? Are you comparing cycling in the summer on a quiet back road in Tuscany to the rush hour in December in Amsterdam? Because otherwise I do not follow. Cycling in Paris has improved a lot recently, but if your really think it is more relaxed Mark W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07882028603632115187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-32504605909779736962011-10-26T00:00:04.944+02:002011-10-26T00:00:04.944+02:00Check out these three videos of CicLAvia in Los A...Check out these three videos of <a href="http://la.streetsblog.org/2011/10/25/adams-does-it-again-with-third-mini-documentary-on-ciclavia/" rel="nofollow">CicLAvia</a> in Los Angeles, by Rob Adams, to see how cycling can be pushed with little opposition and no bicycle infrastructure in the immediate area. The momentum builds and the demand for more bike infrastructure will follow.Dennis Hindmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217027108525416160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-86966522716879198232011-10-25T14:52:30.736+02:002011-10-25T14:52:30.736+02:00Great, inspiring post, thanks David. I lived in NL...Great, inspiring post, thanks David. I lived in NL the 90s which gave me a lifelong appreciation of the Dutch and their transport infrastructure. <br /><br />I agree with others that as well as infrastructure, the image of cycling in many countries has to be changed from "sportsperson" to ordinary person. See the copenhagen cyclechic blog for inspiration! Here in Madrid, even though I Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09221832445293478534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-73600064426838107532011-10-25T01:09:05.164+02:002011-10-25T01:09:05.164+02:00I feel much bettter at ease in France or Italy on ...I feel much bettter at ease in France or Italy on my bike than in Holland. (I am a pre-babyboomer and still don't have a driver's licence) In those countries I am an adult participant in the general traffic. This summer in Paris: a delight compared with Amsterdam where I live. The French countyroads, marvellous! Italians most friendly.<br />The only time I was hit by a car was in Holland Henk op den Bergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-61559818942599153242011-10-24T22:36:49.497+02:002011-10-24T22:36:49.497+02:00@ Severin
I too had goose bumps when watching the ...@ Severin<br />I too had goose bumps when watching the video = great stuff.davidncohennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-24913678938506832242011-10-23T16:57:52.253+02:002011-10-23T16:57:52.253+02:00Did housing and business changes play a role in th...Did housing and business changes play a role in the Dutch shift toward automobiles? Why were the Dutch travelling so far in the '70s, and what made them stop?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-31652712525063139062011-10-23T12:37:18.469+02:002011-10-23T12:37:18.469+02:00I agree that there is no reason per se why the sam...I agree that there is no reason per se why the same approach couldn't work here (in the UK) and elsewhere. However, there is a much bigger 'generation gap' here, i.e. people in the Netherlands had mostly cycled, changed to cars for a bit, then went back to it. Here there are at least two generations now for whom cycling, as others have said, is a niche (even 'weirdo') me_landnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-47011312214319628902011-10-22T22:26:55.071+02:002011-10-22T22:26:55.071+02:00Excellent post and wonderful film, Mark. Thank you...Excellent post and wonderful film, Mark. Thank you very much.Paul Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828401001732920598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-44450786931369051042011-10-22T09:19:01.347+02:002011-10-22T09:19:01.347+02:00Fantastic post and video, but for countries like B...Fantastic post and video, but for countries like Britain aspiring to have what the Dutch have the following question remains tantalisingly unanswered: how do we get politicians and planners to take cycling as transport seriously?<br /><br />If you look closely at the photos of the Amsterdam and Blackfriars protest rides you’ll see the root of the problem. In the picture from the Amsterdam ride ofibikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430951745179465660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-71469465383599396572011-10-22T06:06:34.719+02:002011-10-22T06:06:34.719+02:00I think what's unfortunate about English speak...I think what's unfortunate about English speaking countries is that they tend to be insular in their media. There are enough people in the world that speak English that the media has no reason to look beyond them.<br />What is happening though is that this particular website is a "bridge" to connect a non-anglo european approach to others. It's great!James J. Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-40412994775370983742011-10-21T12:10:47.165+02:002011-10-21T12:10:47.165+02:00It's important to get a large amount of people...It's important to get a large amount of people bicycling on a regular basis, in order to get a ground swell of support for putting in infrastructure. Another way to do that, besides frequent Ciclovia type events, is to introduce bicycle sharing on a large scale. People will try the bikes out of curiosity and this will in turn lead many of them to get their own bike to use instead.<br /><br />Dennis Hindmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217027108525416160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-86418984944668145712011-10-21T11:19:28.382+02:002011-10-21T11:19:28.382+02:00Hello,
I live in the netherlands, in sittard and ...Hello,<br /><br />I live in the netherlands, in sittard and indeed we have a lot of cycling infrastructure.<br /><br />You can cycle across the whole country, what country has that available for their inhabitants?<br /><br />Its very great, cool to see a lot of people know about the netherlands. I always thought nobody know's the netherlands because we are a very small country haha..Gitaarhttp://www.gitaarnet.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3102538965694240940.post-13922170763566493352011-10-21T11:10:05.184+02:002011-10-21T11:10:05.184+02:00I know that we can prove that getting cars out of ...I know that we can prove that getting cars out of ciies is a helpful thing, but what about small owns? Our shopkeepers are adamant that removal of parking spaces will kill their business in our town of 5000 or so, and so far I've found no evidence to contradict this (not saying there isn't any, just that I can't find it)Andy in Germanyhttp://www.workbike.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com